Proposed E&M Enhancements

Comment Status

Available

Comment Period

Mon, Mar 31 - Sun, Apr 20 2025

Cycle

Fall 2024

Description

Endorsement and Maintenance (E&M) Voting Procedure Proposed Enhancements:

Consensus Threshold Adjustment: Lower the consensus threshold to 70% for groups with fewer than 20 voting members, while retaining the 75% threshold for larger groups to ensure strong community agreement. Adjusting the threshold to 70% upholds the integrity of the Measure of Consensus in situations with fewer voting members.
Interpretation of Non-Consensus Decisions: Maintenance measures with a "consensus not reached" vote will retain their endorsed status. Endorsement will only be removed with a consensus vote (75% or 70% for smaller groups).
Voting Approach Refinement: Align with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) standards, by collecting reasons and suggested resolutions from members voting "Do Not Endorse/Remove Endorsement." This supports committee recommendations and ensures concerns are captured.
Ad Hoc Measure Review Process: Measures affected by these changes will be reconsidered and endorsement decisions updated. The process includes:
- Submitting an ad hoc review request for the impacted measure, including details such as the last E&M cycle reviewed, developer and steward contacts, and the immediate issue.
- Reviews focus on immediate issues only, without evaluating material changes to the measure.
- Email requests to PQMsupport@battelle.org with the subject “Emergency/Off-Cycle Review Requested.”
- The E&M project team and committee co-chairs will review and approve requests based on the proposed enhancements.

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I support these options (written in descending order of preference - although I think they both should be done so as to provide a mechanism to re-endorse)-

Voting Approach Refinement: Align with the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) standards, by collecting reasons and suggested resolutions from members voting "Do Not Endorse/Remove Endorsement." This supports committee recommendations and ensures concerns are captured.
Ad Hoc Measure Review Process: Measures affected by these changes will be reconsidered and endorsement decisions updated. The process includes:

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Monika Ray

Voting process

My vote is for -

Voting Approach Refinement followed by Ad Hoc Measure Review Process

So if you have many strong minded skilled people in the committee then you must drop the threshold as great minds DO NOT THINK alike.

But if you have a bags of different kinds (with respect to their level of expertise) of people, then you should increase the threshold.

It’s the concept we in machine learning use when doing ensemble methods/group based decision making.

Name

Monika Ray

Proposed E&M Voting Procedure Enhancement: 1) 75%/70%

I would like to share my concerns about the enhancement proposal on the different threshold percentages. In my opinion, the percentages should be set to just one level, i.e., 70% or 75%, regardless of the size. In addition to creating differing standards, such percentage differences tend to go against simple logic. In my opinion, it will create different standards for measures simply because of size and not because of their merits for endorsement.

In truth, this proposal proposes to change the decision on just one vote (14 (70% of 20) 15 (75% of 20). I am not sure this endorsement should be adopted.

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